TKL: China is panicking. Today, China announced that WIDESPREAD economic stimulus is coming in 2025, including raising their deficit. Currently, parts of China’s real estate sector are down -80% from their high and at 2008 levels. Is China entering a recession?

TKL: China is panicking. Today, China announced that WIDESPREAD economic stimulus is coming in 2025, including raising their deficit. Currently, parts of China's real estate sector are down -80% from their high and at 2008 levels. Is China entering a recession?

To put things into perspective, China’s HY real estate sector entered 2024 down -82% in just 2.5 years. Meanwhile, one of China’s largest property developers, Evergrande, filed Chapter 15 bankruptcy. Real estate demand in China collapsed with the onset of deflation.

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Currently, China is facing its longest period of DEFLATION since 1999. Not even 2008 came with 5 straight quarters of deflation, as we are seeing now. While everyone is fighting inflation, China is dealing with severe deflation. This is arguably even worse than inflation.

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On September 26, China began its largest stimulus since 2020:

  1. Cutting reserve requirements by 0.5%
  2. Cut 7-day RRP rate by 0.2%
  3. Lowering mortgage rates
  4. Injecting $142 billion into banks
  5. Implement “forceful” rate cuts

As we said then, it was “only the beginning.”

Immediately after a week of record inflows, Chinese ETFs saw record outflows. The largest China ETF, FXI, saw a record $984 million in withdrawals in 1 week. FXI saw 5 consecutive weekly outflows.

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Even as hundreds of billions of Dollars of stimulus have begun, Chinese consumer sentiment is terrible. Over the last 3 years, consumer confidence in China is down ~ 50 points. Such a drop in consumer assessment of the Chinese economy has almost never been seen before.

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As a result, China announced the below stimulus for 2025:

  1. Raising its budget deficit ratio
  2. Deliver rate cuts
  3. Lower reserve requirement for banks
  4. Increase issuance of ultra-long treasury bonds
  5. Increase issuance of local government special notes

Will this help?

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One of China’s biggest issues is the rapid decline in consumer sentiment. China home sales fell -6.9% in November, now down in 17 of the last 18 months. Prior to the last 18 months, home sales fell in EVERY month during the 2022 bear market. This is 2008-like behavior.

Lastly, foreign firms are also concerned about China, pulling money out of China for the first time in 30+ years. Investors have withdrawn$12.8 billion from China this year, the most since at least 1998.

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